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imported>Tlosk at 21:13, 17 May 2009

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	\| Text = Those are all great ideas. I think it would work a lot better and would stay maintained automatically. --[[User:Tlosk\|Tlosk]] 21:11, 17 May 2009 (UTC)		\| Text = Those are all great ideas. I think it would work a lot better and would stay maintained automatically. And as the quest by patch is probably the most used page, that will be searchable as well once we get it fully populated. --[[User:Tlosk\|Tlosk]] 21:11, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
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	I decided to break up the page into separate entries. We lose the crtl-F function to find quests, but the page was getting too big, and it hardly even listed all the quests we have. --[[User:An Adventurer\|An Adventurer]] 10:27, 24 October 2008 (CDT)		I decided to break up the page into separate entries. We lose the crtl-F function to find quests, but the page was getting too big, and it hardly even listed all the quests we have. --[[User:An Adventurer\|An Adventurer]] 10:27, 24 October 2008 (CDT)

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imported>An Adventurer at 21:01, 17 May 2009

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	Now that quests are on pages by letter, I propose we give alias names their own entry and redirect them to the page writeup. I've had a few people mention to me trouble finding quests when they looked under the wrong letter (of an alias).--[[User:Tlosk\|Tlosk]] 18:16, 17 May 2009 (UTC)		{{Post
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			\| Text = Now that quests are on pages by letter, I propose we give alias names their own entry and redirect them to the page writeup. I've had a few people mention to me trouble finding quests when they looked under the wrong letter (of an alias).--[[User:Tlosk\|Tlosk]] 18:16, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
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			\| Text = How useful are the current letter indices? With quests being split up into multiple pages, it is not really useful for locating a quest by its reward. It is not useful for sorting by timer, group/solo, exp reward, title reward.

			I would suggest the following solution for locating quests:

			* When possible, all the various names for a quest should be created as redirect pages for the proper quest. These redirect pages should be tagged as ''Category:Quest'' so they are listed in the category.
			* If looking for a quest for a specific item, locate the quest by finding that item's page.
			* If looking for a quest for a specific title, locate the quest by using a search for the title. All titles, when possible, should redirect to their quest. When not possible, a note should be left. For example, Assassin is a creature and a title. A note should be placed at the top of the Assassin creature page directing someone to the Assassin's Roost quest.
			* If looking for high experience quests, the [[XP Quests]] exists - it could use better maintaining, but it is there.
			* If looking for a quest by its type (solo, fellowship, etc), there should be new category pages to find these. I would suggest a change to the quest guide template. If a quest is listed as Solo in the ''Quest Summary'' for example, code should be added to the template so that ''Category:Solo Quest'' is automatically added to the page.

			When this is complete, we should remove the Quest by letter pages. The main [[Quests]] page should contain links to Quest by Patch, Category:Quest, Category:Killtask, Xp Quests, Category:Title Reward, and possibly the newly created type categories, e.g. Category:Solo Quest.

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imported>Tlosk at 18:16, 17 May 2009

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			Now that quests are on pages by letter, I propose we give alias names their own entry and redirect them to the page writeup. I've had a few people mention to me trouble finding quests when they looked under the wrong letter (of an alias).--[[User:Tlosk\|Tlosk]] 18:16, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

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	I decided to break up the page into separate entries. We lose the crtl-F function to find quests, but the page was getting too big, and it hardly even listed all the quests we have. --[[User:An Adventurer\|An Adventurer]] 10:27, 24 October 2008 (CDT)		I decided to break up the page into separate entries. We lose the crtl-F function to find quests, but the page was getting too big, and it hardly even listed all the quests we have. --[[User:An Adventurer\|An Adventurer]] 10:27, 24 October 2008 (CDT)
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imported>An Adventurer at 15:27, 24 October 2008

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			I decided to break up the page into separate entries. We lose the crtl-F function to find quests, but the page was getting too big, and it hardly even listed all the quests we have. --[[User:An Adventurer\|An Adventurer]] 10:27, 24 October 2008 (CDT)
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	I think that would be good, as long as all quests are still on this page for easy locating with ctrl-f. --[[User:An Adventurer\|An Adventurer]] 14:59, 1 August 2008 (CDT)		I think that would be good, as long as all quests are still on this page for easy locating with ctrl-f. --[[User:An Adventurer\|An Adventurer]] 14:59, 1 August 2008 (CDT)

imported>An Adventurer at 19:59, 1 August 2008

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			I think that would be good, as long as all quests are still on this page for easy locating with ctrl-f. --[[User:An Adventurer\|An Adventurer]] 14:59, 1 August 2008 (CDT)

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	Since the information is quite variable from entry to entry, we lose the benefits of having one big table that's sortable. Would it be a good idea to move to a mutli table page with regular indices like is the case for [[Dungeons]] to make it easier to jump to the section you're looking for? --[[User:Tlosk\|Tlosk]] 14:15, 1 August 2008 (CDT)		Since the information is quite variable from entry to entry, we lose the benefits of having one big table that's sortable. Would it be a good idea to move to a mutli table page with regular indices like is the case for [[Dungeons]] to make it easier to jump to the section you're looking for? --[[User:Tlosk\|Tlosk]] 14:15, 1 August 2008 (CDT)

imported>Tlosk at 19:15, 1 August 2008

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			Since the information is quite variable from entry to entry, we lose the benefits of having one big table that's sortable. Would it be a good idea to move to a mutli table page with regular indices like is the case for [[Dungeons]] to make it easier to jump to the section you're looking for? --[[User:Tlosk\|Tlosk]] 14:15, 1 August 2008 (CDT)

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	To cut down on the size of this page, I'd like to suggest moving the killtask section to a new page. This page could be included as a link in the top banner. --[[User:An Adventurer\|An Adventurer]] 11:18, 25 July 2008 (CDT)		To cut down on the size of this page, I'd like to suggest moving the killtask section to a new page. This page could be included as a link in the top banner. --[[User:An Adventurer\|An Adventurer]] 11:18, 25 July 2008 (CDT)
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imported>An Adventurer at 16:18, 25 July 2008

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			To cut down on the size of this page, I'd like to suggest moving the killtask section to a new page. This page could be included as a link in the top banner. --[[User:An Adventurer\|An Adventurer]] 11:18, 25 July 2008 (CDT)
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	Sounds good to me. I was collecting info on this very thing this morning after reading a post on turbine boards asking about this (I was going to populate the blank column that's there now) but I like your idea better. Also I've been playing around with tables to get columns and I've got it pretty much working (so it wouldn't be a single huge long list going down the page).		Sounds good to me. I was collecting info on this very thing this morning after reading a post on turbine boards asking about this (I was going to populate the blank column that's there now) but I like your idea better. Also I've been playing around with tables to get columns and I've got it pretty much working (so it wouldn't be a single huge long list going down the page).
	--[[User:Tlosk\|Tlosk]] 19:21, 16 April 2008 (CDT)		--[[User:Tlosk\|Tlosk]] 19:21, 16 April 2008 (CDT)

imported>Tlosk at 00:21, 17 April 2008

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			Sounds good to me. I was collecting info on this very thing this morning after reading a post on turbine boards asking about this (I was going to populate the blank column that's there now) but I like your idea better. Also I've been playing around with tables to get columns and I've got it pretty much working (so it wouldn't be a single huge long list going down the page).
			--[[User:Tlosk\|Tlosk]] 19:21, 16 April 2008 (CDT)
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	New idea for the quest page: replace the introduced in column with timer. Then, we create a new page that lists all quests by patch with only a link to the quest and no additional info. Basically, the "quest by patch" page would be set up like maggie's quest page post ToD.		New idea for the quest page: replace the introduced in column with timer. Then, we create a new page that lists all quests by patch with only a link to the quest and no additional info. Basically, the "quest by patch" page would be set up like maggie's quest page post ToD.
	--[[User:An Adventurer\|An Adventurer]] 16:34, 16 April 2008 (CDT)		--[[User:An Adventurer\|An Adventurer]] 16:34, 16 April 2008 (CDT)